Piers Morgan and his Good Morning Britain host Susanna Reid welcomed health minister Edward Argar onto the show to talk about Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s return to Downing Street and the uncertainty around the true coronavirus death toll in the UK. As the debate got underway, Morgan was certain Mr Argar had laughed and called him out on his response to the pandemic. But Mr Argar refused to accept the allegation.
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Morgan began the debate by wanting to know exactly how many people had died from coronavirus as he feared the UK could have the second worst record in the world.
He commented: “The reason I think this matters, and you tell me if you think this matters, but I think it matters to be accurate because it informs us of how good our scientific advice was that you as a government have bene slavishly following.
“You know, every government minister says, ‘We have been following the science.’
“So, you’ve not been taking political decisions, you’ve been taking decisions based on what scientists tell you.
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“Our scientists have been outliers in many ways throughout this crisis; a later lockdown and so on.
“So we have to get into how good our science is and that will be determined by how many people are dying.”
Morgan continued: “If it turns out we have the second worst record in the world, it would suggest, given that our scientists went a different way to many others, the the government position of following the science, is misguided.”
Mr Argar hit back: “Well, first of all, I don’t think you’re wrong at all Piers in saying it’s important that we understand the true toll this disease is taking on our fellow citizens, not just because of the science but because every one of those lives really matters and every one of those lives is a very human and personal story.
“So it’s absolutely right that we get the statistical methods that can properly and accurately, not speculatively, get those numbers so I don’t think you’re wrong in pressing for those numbers.”
As the debate continued, Morgan was certain he had heard Mr Argar laughing and snapped: “It’s not funny is it?”
“No it’s not funny,” Mr Argar hit back as Morgan warned: “Well, stop laughing then.”
The health minister continued: “Firstly no one was laughing. Every life lost is a tragedy. Nobody is laughing at this.”
Morgan conceded: “Well you might have been laughing out of frustration.”
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Those tuning in to the debate, agreed with Mr Argar insisting he hadn’t been lauging. One viewer tweeted: “Edward Argar got the better of Piers Morgan. So Piers decides to play the ‘why are you laughing?’ trick for headlines. Pathetic #GMB.”
Another added: “#GMB wow did #PiersMorgan just say he “doesn’t care about scientific advices” to Edward Argar? Then accused him of laughing when he was clearly astounded that he would say that.”
A third shared: “@piersmorgan your laughing comment was a low blow. #GMB.”
Earlier in the interview, Reid demanded to know why coronavirus tests had run out so quickly last week despite government assurances there was enough to cater for everyone.
“If you have the capacity, then how come those people who logged on on Friday found that capacity had run out within literally a couple of minutes,” Reid asked.
Mr Argar replied: “So you’ve got a number of different types of ways of getting the tests.
“The first one, which is important, is pillar one, which is essentially the tests in the workplace for frontline NHS staff and others. They continue to get priority access to those through that pillar in their work place.